John Rudd wrote:
> Dennis Peterson wrote:
>
>> With the tools we have available to us today there is no reason a failed
>> process should remain a secret.
>>
>
> Which does not explain the push-back on having the
> applications/services/daemons provide better documentation and triggers
> for helping that effort, instead of immediately attacking the OP as
> though they're an inadequate sysadmin for having requested that higher
> level of participation from the application/service/daemon authors.
For my part I'm only kvetching about admins who become helpless when
these services on not included in the box.
dp
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