From clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net Fri Aug 17 17:28:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: list@tad.clamav.net Delivered-To: list@tad.clamav.net X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tad.clamav.net Received: from tad.clamav.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tad.clamav.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vDVFzLOOb7do; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tad.clamav.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tad.clamav.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28E516C07F; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:28:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: clamav-users@tad.clamav.net Delivered-To: clamav-users@tad.clamav.net X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tad.clamav.net Received: from tad.clamav.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tad.clamav.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IP04Pw2jymq9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:28:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.rudd.cc (rudd.cc [69.12.154.165]) by tad.clamav.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F8A16C083 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.rudd.cc (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.1.11 _community_) with PIPE id 1197414; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:28:35 -0700 X-RUDD-CC-Sender: X-RUDD-CC-Scanned-By: host.rudd.cc X-RUDD-CC-Submitted-Via: SMTP [10.0.1.210] X-RUDD-CC-ClamAVCheck: No, signature=none Received: from host.rudd.cc (account john [10.0.1.210] verified) by mail.rudd.cc (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1197412 for clamav-users@lists.clamav.net; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:28:31 -0700 Message-ID: <46C5BE99.30104@rudd.cc> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:28:25 -0700 From: John Rudd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ClamAV users ML References: <20070817130011.680c5fe4@localhost> <200708171226.l7HCQGlY032593@wrenkasky.com> <20070817165300.375250a9@localhost> <46C5B92F.3070505@beta.intcomgrp.com> In-Reply-To: <46C5B92F.3070505@beta.intcomgrp.com> Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Sourcefire acquires ClamAV X-BeenThere: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ClamAV users ML List-Id: ClamAV users ML List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net Errors-To: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net James Kosin wrote: > Tomasz Kojm wrote: >> Ed Kasky wrote: >>> Tomasz Kojm wrote: >>>> >>>> lead the advancement of ClamAV and the CVD as employees of Sourcefire. >>>> Both the ClamAV engine and the signature database will remain under GPL. >>> >>> Until they start charging for current updates, etc. like they do with >>> Snort... >> >> you should rest assured that the virus database will stay GPL and will be >> distributed the same way as so far, Sourcefire has no intention of changing >> this. > > I'm complaining now... because the virus database is not the source > to build the binaries. If hey are only saying the virus database is > the ONLY part to stay GPL we may have to pay through the nose for the > source to build the compiled binaries! > > I'm HOPING this hasn't happened and you mis-typed your reply. The original email said that BOTH would remain under the GPL. However, there's nothing about the GPL that prevents them from charging money. GPL is free as in speech, not free as in beer or lunch. After all, I made a nice chunk of change working for a company that "made free software expensive" (Cygnus with gcc/gdb). On the other hand, if sourcefire starts to charge money, there's nothing that would prevent the community from starting a new distribution of the codebase, either. I don't exactly blame the ClamAV team for doing this. It's entirely within their rights, and it has been nice that they've had ClamAV out there in the form it has been for all of this time ... but it was also nice to have a non-corporate driven AV solution out there, especially one that had the solid reputation of ClamAV. No matter what sourcefire does with the project, completely free or subscription driven, etc., the fact is that ClamAV isn't the same starting today. It's now just another AV product, instead of a community project. That's kind of sad. _______________________________________________ Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net http://lurker.clamav.net/list/clamav-users.html