From clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net  Thu Apr 12 07:49:43 2007
Return-Path: <clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net>
X-Original-To: list@tad.clamav.net
Delivered-To: list@tad.clamav.net
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tad.clamav.net
Received: from tad.clamav.net ([127.0.0.1])
	by localhost (tad.clamav.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
	with ESMTP id d7U9lSQJVeIt; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:49:43 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from tad.clamav.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
	by tad.clamav.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B7916C156;
	Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:49:34 +0200 (CEST)
X-Original-To: clamav-users@tad.clamav.net
Delivered-To: clamav-users@tad.clamav.net
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tad.clamav.net
Received: from tad.clamav.net ([127.0.0.1])
	by localhost (tad.clamav.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
	with ESMTP id FIwDRgs15Qw3 for <clamav-users@tad.clamav.net>;
	Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:49:33 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from inetnw.com (inetnw.com [65.101.150.185])
	by tad.clamav.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F084716C124
	for <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>;
	Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:49:32 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from [192.168.0.10] (wireless.inetnw.com [192.168.1.2])
	by inetnw.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l3C5nVFF013071
	for <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>;
	Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:49:31 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <461DC858.2020000@inetnw.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:49:12 -0700
From: Dennis Peterson <dennispe@inetnw.com>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>
References: <NCBBJCDIGFAINBLFEHILMELPLAAA.clamav@iotti.biz>
In-Reply-To: <NCBBJCDIGFAINBLFEHILMELPLAAA.clamav@iotti.biz>
X-Miltered: at omak with ID 461DC86B.000 by Joe's j-chkmail
	(http://inetnw.net/spam.php)!
Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] error stops clamd
X-BeenThere: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>
List-Id: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users.lists.clamav.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users>,
	<mailto:clamav-users-request@lists.clamav.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>
List-Help: <mailto:clamav-users-request@lists.clamav.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users>,
	<mailto:clamav-users-request@lists.clamav.net?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net
Errors-To: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net

Luigi Iotti wrote:

>>
>> Notification is a part of the solution IMHO.  If clamd recognizes that
>> it's not able to load the new ones because the update process is still
>> occurring, then it should continue running *AND* notify the sysadmin
>> that it's running in what should be considered a degraded mode.  The
>> ease with which this is attained will vary by system.
> 
> I agree. Only it's worth noticing that if I have a script that can inform me
> via a pager that clamd is not running, than it's likely to be able to inform
> me that an update did not go well, or that sigtool reports my virus
> signatures to be 4 or 24 or NN hours old. I would be equally informed, but I
> would have no denial of service.
> 
> Just my opinion.

The environment I support is a forest of gateway servers. If any/all 
lose the ability to scan viruses, the inside server forest, running a 
completely different tool suite, can pick up the load. My job is to 
bring full service back to my systems as quickly as possible. That 
happened - logs show no viruses were ingested, and this is a million 
message/week system. Fault tolerance, notification, redundancy. Oh - and 
expensive. Very expensive, in fact.

Anyone know if this event caused Barracuda systems to fold up the tent?

dp
_______________________________________________
Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net
http://lurker.clamav.net/list/clamav-users.html

