From clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net Wed Apr 11 17:27:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: list@tad.clamav.net Delivered-To: list@tad.clamav.net X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tad.clamav.net Received: from tad.clamav.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tad.clamav.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DBUKJNYeZ+GP; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:27:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tad.clamav.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tad.clamav.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904AE414172; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:27:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: clamav-users@tad.clamav.net Delivered-To: clamav-users@tad.clamav.net X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tad.clamav.net Received: from tad.clamav.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tad.clamav.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hdqvdjg+RpDE for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from inetnw.com (inetnw.com [65.101.150.185]) by tad.clamav.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE641405C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (wireless.inetnw.com [192.168.1.2]) by inetnw.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l3BFR06q006355 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <461CFE32.3000404@inetnw.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:26:42 -0700 From: Dennis Peterson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ClamAV users ML References: <461CD008.6040308@gmx.de> <461CD311.1090901@gmx.net> <461CF5D1.6060400@inetnw.com> <461CF9E2.20606@rudd.cc> In-Reply-To: <461CF9E2.20606@rudd.cc> X-Miltered: at omak with ID 461CFE45.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://inetnw.net/spam.php)! Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] error stops clamd X-BeenThere: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ClamAV users ML List-Id: ClamAV users ML List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net Errors-To: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net John Rudd wrote: > Dennis Peterson wrote: > >> You need to have better monitoring and notification, and a mail system >> that delivers mail even if there is a fatal error in the AV tool. This >> is hardly a ClamAV problem. > > Depends on what your goals are. > > For me, a reliable email system does not just mean "mail gets > delivered". It also means that "we reliably reject detectable viruses". > If we're letting viruses through because our pants are down (because > our AV tool has failed), then that's not a reliable email system. > That's a dysfunctional email system. > > better monitoring and notification: yes, good. > > letting potentially virus laden email through because your AV tool is > down: very bad. Send it to your next AV tool. You don't rely on a single tool for this, do you? > > > It's like using condoms. Just because you run out of condoms doesn't > make unprotected sex suddenly "safe". Accepting email from the world > without your AV tool processing it is as irresponsible as having > unprotected sex with the entire world. Or maybe get second condom source, not to mention do better condom monitoring. Bad choices have bad consequences. Seriously - if you know you're going to use five or six condoms each day and you see you have only two left (because your monitoring works), you have plenty of time to get more condoms. Owing to defects in manufacture it is never a good thing to find yourself looking over your breakfast at a box with only one condom left in it - very risky, as this increases the urgency to replenish sooner than later. Fortunately there is a good chance the system has built-in redundancy in that any or all of your partners that day may have their own condoms in which case problem solved and the expense is shared. It would be a good idea though to inspect the product to ensure it satisfies your quality requirements. Good planning pays off. dp _______________________________________________ Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net http://lurker.clamav.net/list/clamav-users.html