From clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net Mon Dec 19 05:16:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: list@krisma.oltrelinux.com Delivered-To: list@krisma.oltrelinux.com Received: from aj.catt.com (aj.catt.com [64.18.103.6]) by mail.oltrelinux.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD17011AE78 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:16:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from aj.catt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aj.catt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AED5156153; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tranquility.scriptkitchen.com (tranquility.scriptkitchen.com [209.82.178.130]) by aj.catt.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C0DC1560D3 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9661 invoked by uid 227); 19 Dec 2005 04:15:38 -0000 Received: from kitchen@scriptkitchen.com by tranquility by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.22 ( Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.350783 secs); 19 Dec 2005 04:15:38 -0000 Received: from ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c1a-157.anhmca.adelphia.net (ca-yorbalnd-cuda2-c1a-157.anhmca.adelphia.net [68.169.250.157]) by tranquility.scriptkitchen.com ([209.82.178.131]) with ESMTP via SSL; 19 Dec 2005 04:15:38 -0000 From: Jeremy Kitchen Organization: GreyStar Solutions To: ClamAV users ML Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] [OT] Top posting is harmful. (Was: Clamd Problem.) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:15:37 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <43ea8d070512170148j199f1f49i@mail.gmail.com> <20051218185855.GA31431@wjjeep.com> <43A5B4AA.8050408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43A5B4AA.8050408@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200512182015.41834.kitchen@scriptkitchen.com> X-BeenThere: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ClamAV users ML List-Id: ClamAV users ML List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0525690002==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net Errors-To: clamav-users-bounces@lists.clamav.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at krisma.oltrelinux.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 tagged_above=-999.0 required=6.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_60 X-Spam-Level: --===============0525690002== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2004750.zzny4hfW7b"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart2004750.zzny4hfW7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 18 December 2005 11:12 am, Joe Polk wrote: > clamav@wjjeep.com wrote: > >Actually, it doesn't matter what opinions anyone may have, it *is* again= st > > the rules. > > Agreed. Not because it's harmful, but because they do not want it on > this list. it clearly is harmful. the mistaken email (which, I have decreed, would ha= ve=20 been avoided had the user not top-posted) spent approximately 25MB of the=20 list server's bandwidth (assuming there are about 5k subscribers to the lis= t) It was a small email as well. If you'd like, I can point you to some rathe= r=20 large emails from deep in threads where the entire conversation is top=20 posted, with no trimming. Oh, and the people had those damned silly=20 disclaimers attached as well, which were about 15 lines each. Also, my email client places my cursor at the start of the email as well, b= ut=20 you don't see me top posting. Saying "it's because your cursor goes to the= =20 top of the email when you click reply" is a cop-out. That's like saying=20 you're not at fault for getting in a car accident because the gas pedal is= =20 RIGHT UNDER YOUR FOOT. I am a firm believer in that all of the world's (and the internet's) proble= ms=20 can be solved by education. Sure, I could let you shoot yourself in the=20 foot, but that bullet might ricochet and hit me, so it's in my best interes= ts=20 to pull the gun out of your hand. =2DJeremy =2D-=20 Jeremy Kitchen ++ kitchen@scriptkitchen.com In the beginning was The Word and The Word was Content-type: text/plain -- The Word of Bob. --nextPart2004750.zzny4hfW7b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDpjPtyBTJv0gb9+IRArogAJ9vGGrW5BhDTiiI17krtzmhbvCRKACfURyr BzgEBGx3GfExzlqs5gIS4yw= =MF7T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2004750.zzny4hfW7b-- --===============0525690002== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ http://lurker.clamav.net/list/clamav-users.html --===============0525690002==--